| MCCOLLUM:
You say on "The Way I Am" that "I'm not gonna be able to top 'My Name
Is.' " Here you've sold four million records in five weeks. Guess
you proved yourself wrong.
EMINEM:
When I wrote that song the label was really stressing me for a first
single. I had my whole album just about finished. I went up to Interscope
and played it for everybody. But everybody was saying they didn't
feel like I had a leadoff single -- they were all second singles,
like "Stan" and "Criminal." That's when I wrote "The Way I Am,"
right after we had that meeting. I was feeling the frustration and
pressure of like trying to top "My Name Is." So instead of giving
them "The Real Slim Shady," which I ended up writing at the last
minute right before my deadline -- thank God -- I gave 'em that
song. I just let it out. It was a message to the label, a message
to everybody, to get off my f------ back.
Nobody
really understands the pressures put on me, to always be good, to
always be on point. There are so many pressures that go with my
job right now. It's crazy. I'm really glad we're shooting a video
of this song. It's my favorite song on the album.
Despite
all your success last year, it doesn't sound like you've found much
peace. In fact, it seems quite the opposite.
You
gotta be careful what you wish for. I always wished and hoped for
this. But it's almost turning into more of a nightmare than a dream.
In
what way?
In
every aspect: not being able to walk down the street anymore, people
not treating me like a normal human being anymore. I miss going
to the park and playing basketball. I was never that person who
wanted big cars and Benzes. All I really wanted to do was have a
career in hip-hop and be successful.
Does
that mean you would take back the last year?
Would
I take it all back? That's a good question. That's a real good question.
It's 50-50. People would argue, "You got everything you want. You've
got money, you don't have to worry about paying bills."
But
I can't even go in public anymore. I've got the whole world looking
at me. I can't be treated like regular person anymore.
But
there are positives, just in the sense that my little brother's
not gonna need anything the rest of his life. My moth ...My mother!
My daughter's not gonna need anything the rest of
her life. Sometimes I feel like I'm living my life for everyone
else. I wake up at seven in the morning, and the rest of the day
is work. I can't sleep. I don't eat. It's just crazy. It's a lot
of f------ work, a lot more work than I ever expected.
When
you look back at your days playing clubs around town, does it feel
like ancient history, or are those memories fresh in your mind?
It
doesn't seem that far away. These past couple of years have really
shot by for me. S--- is speeding now. Before I was famous, when
I was just working in Gilbert's Lodge, everything was moving in
slow motion.
Most
people figure that after delivering a multiplatinum album, like
you did last year with "Slim Shady," you could go just about anywhere
you wanted. But you stayed in the Detroit area. Bought the big house
in Sterling Heights last year.
I
tried to stay close to home. For one thing I bought the house when
I didn't know I would be as successful as I am now. It was like,
"I better grab this house, I don't know if any more money is coming."
I bought the house, got it on the main road ...just figuring I might
get a couple of fans every once in a while. That was a big f------
mistake.
And
the city won't let me put up a fence. They won't pass a city ordinance
for me. They won't take my case as a special case. Everybody wants
to treat me like a regular f------ person. But I'm not a regular
f------ person. I've gotta have security guards sitting outside
my house now because they won't let me put a fence up. The other
night somebody hit one of my security guards in the head with a
battery. That's they type of s--- I get, m-----------s coming to
my house, knocking on the door. Either they want autographs or they
want to fight. We've had people getting in our backyard and swimming
in our pools.
I
take it you're planning to find somewhere else to live.
Yes,
I will. Yes, indeed.
And
you stayed close to home ...
Just
because I'm so used to it. Like I said, a lot of people don't understand
this about me.... I guess the point I'm trying to get across is
not only did I never think I'd get this big, it's like I'm still
refusing to believe it. I don't like having security hold my hand
to walk out to my f------mailbox. There's something inside of me
that refuses to believe I can't walk down the street or be as normal
as I want to be. That's the downside.
Your
run-ins with the law have upped the ante.
I
can't comment on it as much as I'd like to. All I can say is that
it's the story of my life: Whenever something good happens, the
bad always follows. That's the story of my life since the day I
was born.
I
should have been out celebrating my record sales. Instead I'm sitting
there in jail. Hopefully I can get through this.
How
do you feel about your chances?
Uh
. .. (Pauses) Man, I can't even say what I feel. But I have
no idea what's gonna happen. I hate not knowing that, but I guess
it's part of the life I lead. I don't know, man. My personal life
is kind of f----- up. Every aspect of my personal life is put out
there.
And
you've helped put it out there. How does somebody get past the intimidation
of airing their dirty laundry for millions of listeners?
I
don't know. I think one of the reasons is because I make my songs
for me. Me and the missus, we go at it. It's no secret we've had
our problems, or that we're still having our problems. I feel like
when something's bothering me, the best way to get it out is to
write a song about it, I think when I do that, people can relate
to me more. The more I tell them, the more in touch they are with
me.
Because
I guarantee you there's a lot of people going through this kind
of s--- with their relationships -- with their girl, their man.
I think a lot of people feel what I'm really saying. There's a lot
of people out there that get in relationships and have kids involved.
Once you have a child, once you bring a child into this world, it
makes it that much more complicated, especially when you don't get
along with someone. You're trying to make it work, you want to make
your family work. But s--- keeps happening that f---- it up.
Not
to defend Kim, but I realize what has happened to me has probably
been a strain on her, too. It's a crazy thing to deal with. You've
really got be in shape.
How
supportive was she of your music as you were trying to catch a break?
Want
me to be honest? It was off and on. When we were younger, she supported
everything I did. The older we got, the more reality started to
set in. She's one of those people that's real down to earth, like
"Hello! You're living in fantasy. These things don't happen to people
like us." I was always the optimist, like, "Yo, I'm gonna make this
happen." And I just kept busting my ass. To be honest, I really
didn't have much support, nobody in my family, in her family. Just
a few friends. And just myself.
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